he said that to you?
yeah. that happened one month ago.
it’s the stigma that we hope [we’re addressing with these] restaurants. i’ve done three of them. it’s education, education, education. when i was in school, i learned world religions — why don’t you teach a simple sex class on stds, ok? we forget that sex is a big part of our life.
when did you get back into cooking?
i grew up in an italian household, so you have your nonna and by ten you learn how to make wine, you learn how to make soppressata. you watch your mother cook. food is life, food is conversation, food is everything to us. when i got to toronto after i graduated [school] and worked for the sheraton center, i found that f & b [food and beverage] was my calling. so, i started in f & b in 1981. and for six years, i worked at the sheraton center as a senior account executive in catering. i was on top of the world when i moved to new york; i opened seven restaurants in 14 years in manhattan.
then i came back [when] i got sick and i took care of myself. i started to feed people on my floor, started to feed people across the hall from me and started to feed homeless people. and then in may of 2017, smash stigma and june’s hiv+ eatery created the persona chef allan. so 14 of us opened up a pop-up a restaurant for three days because 50 per cent of canadians would not eat food from a person with hiv.
how does it feel now to be able to cook for so many people and get back at running a restaurant again?
it feels like i’m useful. it feels like i’m productive. it feels like i’m a part of society. i fit in again, even though i know i [have] hiv. it gives me great happiness, even though i’m restricted with my disabilities.
how do you keep going when you’ve had to contend with so much stigma from so many people?
i don’t want my mother to have to go through [her son] dying before she does. i do not want to cause my mother’s pain. i want to thank all the people that spent all this time on taking care of me and pay them back by them seeing me healthy; it’s a drive i had. everything i get from somebody, i want to pay them back. i want to say thank you, [but] thank you isn’t enough for me. because they saved my life.